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Re: [3] [kDev] All your Wiki, Blog, Forum, Poll and Email List are belong to us...



Maciej Ceglowski's site :
http://www.idlewords.com/weblog.04.2003.html

Arup

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arup Bhanja" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <k-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [3] [kDev] All your Wiki, Blog, Forum, Poll and Email List are
belong to us...


> Hi Daniel,
>
> Well for semanticising you are already using TBL's cwm API [as evident in
> the wiki]. You might also want to take a look at :
> 1. Dr. Martin Porter's algorithm
> 2. Marciej Cieglowski's CNG [Contextual Network Graph] a paper he read in
> July 2003 regarding the foundations of a contextual web + rules for making
> it work.
> 3. Also Phil Wendley's website + http://www.lockergnome.com
>
> [search 1 and 2  in google]
>
> As for the technobabble [RSS/RDF et al] we have to deal with it a little
as
> we have to delve into quite technical info. The Contextual web you are
> talking about is about to happen and I think Kendra is well positioned to
> use it as it comes.
>
> But we have to first set out the rules that we will use and in what
context
> [or maybe TBL and others will??] I remember the old ad copy in UK "Nothing
> sucks like Exlectrolux" that no adman would ever use in US due the
different
> context of the word 'sucks' in US.
>
> Both Dr. Porter as well Mr. Cieglowski have pointed out that the
contextual
> web is about to happen but they are yet to define in what context will it
> run.
>
> As for 'giving you content without any jot of XML' I am sure folks besides
> kendra are working OVERTIME so I ain;t got any homework [he he  :))
>
> Best
> Arup
> btw TBL is Tim Berners Lee. ;-)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daniel Harris" <daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <k-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 4:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [2] [kDev] All your Wiki, Blog, Forum, Poll and Email List
are
> belong to us...
>
>
> > Hi Arup,
> >
> > In short, I want detailed answers... and please avoid technical terms
> > (like RDF or hash) that cover a wide set of ideas when you're trying to
> > explain a specific context.
> >
> > > This is very much similar to PageLet engine I developed...
> >
> > What it seems you've done is copy a whole site and then change all the
> > urls to go through a php script that then gives you back the webpages.
> > Sorry, but what's the big deal? How does it relate to what I'm talking
> > about?
> >
> > > What we can now do is as you say 'Avoid the dross' is to search...
> >
> > Well, OK, but that's not really what I'm talking about. You are still
> > talking about pages; and doing textual (not semantic) searches. All
> > your text is fixed in the page format. You can't reorder the text based
> > on a query. You're just talking about highlighting it - that's not
> > enough for what I want to do.
> >
> > For example, on a simple level, I may want page type BenefitList to
> > list all the benefits of Kendra to various stereotypes: content owners,
> > content consumers, ISPs, etc. Then I'll want a page for each stereotype
> > (StereotypeISP, etc) that lists the benefits and then other specific
> > stereotypical information. So, 2 types of pages but the benefit text in
> > each type of page is from the same source text. Edit the source text
> > and you change the text on both BenefitList and StereotypeISP. Yeah?
> >
> > > The current offering will be to search a given RSS/RDF url...
> >
> > What does that mean?
> >
> > > ... we will deliver a hash of search results...
> >
> > What does that mean?
> >
> > > You can already 'read' or 'feed' any RSS/RDF file to your website
> > > using...
> >
> > OK. Here it is. Don't talk to me about RDF or RSS or hashes. Give me
> > tools/demonstrations where I don't see one jot of XML, where all I see
> > is simple tools to enable searches textual/contextual/semantic and give
> > me the results in the format that I want. Hey, now you've got some
> > homework (ain't we all)! ;-)
> >
> > Cheers Daniel
> >
>
>
>
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