Re: [kDev] He!p needed on the technical side...

[Daniel Harris <daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi there Kev,

Thanks for your ideas. Please see comments...

At 18:06 25/01/02 +0000, Kyrian wrote:
>For collaborative discussion, use TWiki:

This is cool but people are using email discussion lists at the moment. My 
fear is that switching to a pure web passed tool would loose too many 
people. Email is  a convenient way for people to communicate and we have to 
work to our participants requirements.

We need discuss the features of what we want before we suggest ways of 
implementation. I've already stated quite a few here:
http://www.kendra.org.uk/lists/archive/k-framework/msg00024.html
What do you think? I suspect you didn't have time to read it before hitting 
the town... ;-)

Also, and this goes for any application, we need to continue to evolve the 
way that we work. If TWiki doesn't evolve the way we want/need it to or 
doesn't evolve at all then we are stuck, aren't we?

>For project/request management, use RT:

How could we use this? I don't think we can rush any of this. We have to 
spec out our requirements.

>I've already mentioned mailman, and it's by far the best thing I've seen
>for the sort of list management that you seem to require. It certainly
>would beat majordomo hands down!

Going forward I don't think we want either. We need to enable the kind of 
linking that TWiki provides but using email too and providing much more 
structure for categorising ideas and linking them together and then getting 
people to rate/recommend them. Being able to view collective ideas as a 
mind map or something. A collection of ideas and the most agreed upon 
rise/bigger and the less worthy fall/smaller. Important point: No one gets 
ideas dissed, no one feels alienated. We're just doing design work. We're 
not trying to separate from one and other. We are all one. Get it?!

>Anyway, all of the above play nicely with Apache and standard linux
>stuff, which it sounds like you're using (?).

Personally, I'd like to stick with those, yes. But then I don't want to do 
the coding so it's up to you guys. If that's what you want then that's what 
you'll have! What a nice world this is. Everything's going your way.

>And for the "peace of mind" element about the website and stuff, well,
>I'm currently configuring the netsaint system for my own purposes(ie.
>servers), and I don't mind if Kendra piggybacks that for remote
>monitoring if you want...

And who will get the call? I hope it isn't me!

>As far as actual coding goes, well, I could lend a hand with the PHP
>stuff for the website, but if you're talking anything more
>hardcore/mission critical than that, then I'd rather stay out of it...

Don't fret - it's not mission critical. But up till now I kind of 
encouraged all this stuff to be bodged together piece meal and now it's 
starting to hurt. So, we need to get it all nice and sorted. Documented. 
I've not done this before. So, I don't know what it takes. I'm not a 
project manager. So, I'm asking for help here.

>And if someone is needed to keep an eye on technical stuff, well, I'd
>consider doing that as well...

Nice one. Please give us some ideas on that and we'll discuss on list.

Cheers Daniel